Pauline (00:41)

Well, hello and welcome back. I'm Pauline Walfisch and I am here with my faithful co-host, Megan.

Megan (00:49)

Hi, I'm Megan Nelson. So this is our, what do we want to call this? Let's catch up. Let's, debrief. Look back. It's a look back. Okay. A look back at our last episodes. And since we just decided to do this, we kind of did a lot of episodes. Now the ones that will be released by the time.

Pauline (00:55)

look

Megan (01:11)

we release this will be, I think, like seven.

Pauline (01:14)

Yeah, yeah. And you just said we just decided to do this. but I, the world out there has no idea what you're talking about, They don't know how quite insane both of us are.

Megan (01:22)

⁓ Rick! ⁓

Well,

I guess last week we were ⁓ I think we recorded a session. And I said, an episode, not a session. I know, they're all sessions, aren't they? And I said, I was thinking we should just have.

Pauline (01:38)

We live our lives in 45 to 60 minute sessions.

Megan (01:48)

every month or so or have like a check-in just the two of us and you were like I was thinking that too so yeah our

Pauline (01:57)

Yes, it's our synchronicity. Megan

and I are often on the same page. mean, before we turned the camera on, we were also talking just about like our vibe every week and our outfits and color coordination. so.

Megan (02:14)

The accidental coordination,

Pauline (02:16)

Yeah,

Megan (02:16)

yeah.

Pauline (02:16)

if you've been watching, we don't actually plan what we're going to wear ahead of time. We don't talk about it at all. then pretty consistently, we show up and we're like vibing. We've your crown, you've got gold.

Megan (02:28)

Yeah, non-clawing. Yeah,

it's like, you know, in middle school and you'd show up and you're the same outfit as your friend. I mean, we're not wearing the same outfit, but we're complimenting.

Pauline (02:38)

Yeah.

No, not at all. And we

are not the same person at all. But we do share some similarities like our comfort with spontaneity and willingness to try things that may be an epic failure.

Megan (02:45)

No.

Maybe.

So.

Pauline (02:59)

I like like starting a podcast.

Megan (03:01)

starting podcast,

yeah. Without really thinking through like what it entails. That's one of my, I will say it's a gift that I am like, why not? And I got that gift from my mother, I would say that she was always like,

Pauline (03:11)

I agree.

Megan (03:22)

We would go to a store or something that you'd be like, oh, we can make that or we should try to make that. So it was always part of my life that it was like, oh, why not? What's the worst that could happen? Sometimes it's not great, but I don't really care. Like, I just like to do stuff.

Pauline (03:32)

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, I really agree with that. I don't think I was always that way. think like, probably in my certainly in my adolescence and like probably in my 20s, I was much more insecure, much more worried about what other people were going to think about me. Like, in my 30s, I probably would have never done a podcast, right? Like the fact that like people are out there watching me and maybe they think I look stupid or maybe they don't agree with what

Megan (04:02)

you

Pauline (04:09)

I said would have really like sent me into a spiral and now because I'm you know of an advanced age those things really don't bother me so much anymore.

Megan (04:20)

at fan stage. Should say that

like you're like 80 years old or not?

Pauline (04:24)

Yeah, I'm an old lady.

But I really do believe that like part of what has contributed to my success and the fact that I can sit here and talk about my successes is growth ⁓ is like a willingness to try things and like if it doesn't work, it doesn't work because somebody in my hospital career, one of the physicians I remember,

taught me that perfection is enemy of the good. And when I heard him say that I was like, what does that mean?

Megan (04:56)

Don't

let perfection be the enemy of good, yeah.

Pauline (04:59)

Yeah, and we can do so much good even if it's not perfect. even if we don't achieve all our goals or even if the know some episodes the sound is off or our lighting wasn't good. You know like how

Megan (05:11)

Yeah. Yeah. More like

the edits are weird. Yeah. Okay.

Pauline (05:16)

Yeah,

and we're getting better. if you've stuck around and you listen to a couple episodes, we were like, okay, we got to do this. We have to check the lighting. We have to, and we're learning as we're going. if we had gotten stuck in making sure that that was all perfect, like we would have never started and we wouldn't be on episode seven. And here we are.

Megan (05:34)

Yeah,

I'll never forget we had a friend that worked for Jimmy Fallon and it was when his show just started. And so we got to see the first two episodes and they weren't good,

Pauline (05:48)

Thank

Megan (05:49)

They were not good. And yet, and of course they weren't everybody's nervous. They're running on fumes because they put so much effort into trying to just get it out there. He was probably scared to death and the guests didn't know what they were doing. The crew didn't know what they were doing. And then to watch the show over the years become really good in my opinion, I'm like, ⁓

Yeah, it's always going to be bad when you start. And allowing for it to be bad, I think, is that level of acceptance. It's like, OK, you know.

Pauline (06:13)

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. you know, just just being willing to take that risk and adjust, right? I'm going to try things, they're going to work great. And sometimes they're not going to work and I have to readjust my sales and.

Megan (06:35)

And also you don't know what other people are going

to get from it.

And that kind of is my driving force when I get in my head about what if I, you know, one of my concerns is what if I say something that someone else would find harmful? Well, news flash, there can always be something. But I also have to understand I'm working not to do that. And I'm pretty good at repair at this point in my life. And also like

I'm not gonna be everyone's cup of tea and that's okay, you know? and I don't want those things to interfere with the fact that someone might get something out of it.

Pauline (07:13)

Right. Yeah.

every episode sort of has had its own flavor and through this podcast this concept has been reinforced for me but it's like this was not the first time

some people really like something and some of this that same thing somebody else is going to not like or find distasteful two people can look at the same thing one person thinks it's beautiful somebody else thinks it's ugly it don't know where it was going that's exactly your mom and my best friends right

Megan (07:39)

Well, let's talk about my mom.

Yeah, we'll talk about

my mom. Hi mom, if you're listening. I guess it was like a couple weeks in and my mom was like, I don't know what she's doing. She was retired. she could have listened to it earlier, but just kidding. But she was like, I listened to the first two episodes. Yours was great, but Pauline, hers was really great. It spoke to me. It made me cry. And of course,

I'm so happy to hear that because she connected with you and she already knows me and knows the story and she was like, okay, whatever. But I love that. And I sent you the text, right? But I was like, yeah.

Pauline (08:19)

Yeah.

Yes. And then the next day I told you about my best friend and Aga, if you're out there listening. Yes, I'm talking about you said to me like, I listened to your podcast. Like you seem really nervous. Like, I don't know why you sounded like that. Were you nervous? that's not the person I know. the person that is your co-host, she seems really great and confident. I'm so drawn to her. I just want to listen to everything she said, but

like

you, you seemed kind of not yourself. I so then when you told me about your mom the next day, was like, okay,

You know, we go into life with the filter that we have. And I had said to her, yeah, it doesn't seem like me because you see the personal me. And even though in this podcast, I'm not my full therapist self, I still have my professional identity on. Right. I'm still showing up as a professional where she gets to see really the raw side of me. Right. So when she was looking

at me with my professional identity, it seems really uncomfortable to her. Yeah. And then your mom, who doesn't know me, was like, oh, I'm drawn to her. So I guess it's eye of the beholder, right? And we're just doing our best job here. And no, I wasn't nervous. Maybe. Maybe I was a little.

Megan (09:24)

Like,

Totally.

Yeah.

Maybe it was also I mean what people don't see is that we're doing this between sessions and scarfing lunch down and you know running to the grocery store and whatever so yeah. I'm little hectic.

Pauline (09:53)

Yes, yes, it is, it is a, I

mean, it's, it's kind of like telehealth and doing therapy virtually. It's super convenient and also not the same as having protected studio time and no interruptions.

you at least have been consistent enough to be in the same studio every week and I am juggling three different offices. Some of my background changes.

Megan (10:19)

out to my husband

who built my office for me so I could have a little private space and so very lucky that he did that. But you are running between three offices.

Pauline (10:25)

Yeah.

Yeah,

yeah, and it's okay. I love it. So everybody gets to see a different background and some days, some days it changes.

Megan (10:34)

No.

So

what? Okay, of our first seven episodes, so I'm gonna remind, obviously, the first and second one we did, and then we had Ashley on talking about PCOS, Sarah, two-parter, who had her baby, which is very exciting.

Pauline (10:56)

Yes she did.

Megan (10:59)

We had Neha talking about parenting special needs children and Hana, which by the time we release this, we will have released her episode talking about the leaky messy parts of pregnancy and postpartum and all of that from a doula perspective.

Pauline (11:13)

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right, so let's let's go back one by one. So the first one, I introduced my story I don't know, that seems boring. I don't need to talk about that. And also it was fun. It was fun, you know, and

Megan (11:20)

Okay.

It's important to you because you talk about it. Yeah.

Pauline (11:32)

You know, I love to share that part of my story when people want to hear it. don't always talk about it. Sometimes there's a right time and I realize sometimes there's not a right time. But I hope it was helpful to people. And I have heard feedback from people that it was like your mom, which I texted you back that it made me cry, that it made her cry. And that's why we're doing this, right?

Megan (11:38)

you.

you

Yeah.

Pauline (12:01)

so that nobody feels alone and everybody feels heard and seen. So that was was episode one.

And I'm super proud that we just did episode one. we have been talking about this for six months, like should we should be? don't know. And then we're like, you know what, let's just do it. And in true Pauline fashion, supported by Megan fashion, which we'll have to talk about that for episode two, we were like, we can do this tomorrow, right? when we made the decision, we just like ran with it.

Megan (12:33)

Yeah, we did get a little prep from your sister-in-law, out to her, who helped us talk us through.

Pauline (12:34)

in a way that yes, I want to Alice Chang out there from

a hospitality on the rise podcast. Yes, so we did a little due diligence and then we just ran with it. So we did episode one. And then fashion. Yes.

Megan (12:48)

Very little. Yeah.

And then it was easier, I think, right? I

think once we did one, it's like, okay, can just keep going. Yeah.

Pauline (13:02)

Yeah.

How'd you feel about episode two?

Megan (13:05)

You know, I felt really good about it. I was honestly a little... Okay, so here's my thing. I'm a little hesitant because I do have a lot of personality. And I like to talk a lot. I like to share my experience and other people's experience and things like that. And I'm also a therapist and

you know, I don't want people to watch it and be like, I'm not going to see her. But the other side of it is, I think also people are drawn to me that we will be a good connection. there was a part of me that was a little nervous about that. ⁓

Pauline (13:36)

Yeah.

Yeah, well, you're

an early career therapist, right? Like, you're just starting out just figuring out your identity.

Megan (13:49)

Right, right.

Yeah,

this is my second career. so it's also wanting to hold space for the people I do see and hold that sacred and also have this other dual identity that's also kind of intertwined. It's a little bit.

of a learning experience, which is one of reasons I chose to tell my family's story instead of like my story, you know, because I've got a story too and I'm sure pieces of it will come out. But yeah, it's kind of it was a little like.

okay. Also I didn't know how my parents were gonna respond to it but they when I told them they were really moved and my dad said that he would be on the podcast to talk about his side of the story which my dad's a great storyteller so I think that would be really fun actually to have him on.

Pauline (14:49)

Yeah,

we have to get some, we have to, we have some men ideas. Get them in here. Yeah. It was really, it was really great hearing the generational legacies and stories that get passed on and through.

Megan (14:53)

Yeah, we need some men.

Pauline (15:05)

Then we sort of hit our stride, right? Then we're like, okay, we know what we're doing. We got this. Now bring in somebody else and enter Ashley, Dr. DFG. ⁓

Megan (15:09)

Okay, now we can have other people on. And Ashley.

Yeah, little tiny,

what was it? Not intros, but little cameos of her little.

Pauline (15:26)

See you

A random foot appearing.

Yeah, mean, Ashley is such a ball of joy. you know, it's a gift that we get to work with her all the time because she's just always so positive and happy. And I still like challenge her on that. Nobody can be that happy all of the time.

Megan (15:43)

Yeah, she's so fun to work with.

Yeah, but she has a real authenticity as well. you know, you have a hard time when people like just are super positive and you're like, something feels off, you know, she doesn't have that. a, it's like a real genuine, yeah. Yeah. That's nice. because.

Pauline (16:08)

she's real.

Yeah, talking

about the experience of PCOS and especially as a black woman in the medical system, right? we just feel like we just dipped our toes into those topics and, really want to get back there.

Megan (16:27)

Yeah, I mean, I know people with PCOS and have clients that have PCOS and I, I mean, there was so much that I didn't know. And I think that's kind of the coolest thing about doing this podcast is I feel like after every session, deepens my conversations with people because I heard about this. What do you think? So even just now when I hear people are on Metformin, I'm like, great. How's that working for you? Because

I talked to Ashley about it, or we talked to Ashley about it, and I'm like, interesting, now I have more of a framework I guess from her experience, so it's interesting, it's really cool.

Pauline (17:00)

Yeah. Yeah. And

it didn't come in the up in the podcast, but for anybody listening, nobody tells you about the diarrhea that you will have if you take metformin. So just so you know, your body needs to get adjusted to it in the first couple of weeks are pretty awful. Just just nobody talks about that.

Megan (17:16)

to know. Jeff, nobody talks about that

so you just have to get through it kind of a thing.

Pauline (17:21)

Yeah.

Megan (17:22)

Okay, so within we had Sarah on for a two parter.

Pauline (17:22)

the same as Mr.

Sarah, she's so cute.

Megan (17:30)

I know. She was so good. have you heard anything back about people listening to Sarah's episodes?

Pauline (17:37)

You know, it's funny. Shockingly, people don't talk about sex.

⁓ I was with my same friend who told me that I seemed nervous. And I was like, have you listened to the episode? And she was like, no, there's nothing I don't know. And I was like, come on, you need to listen to this. And we were at a table with her and her husband and me and my husband. And the men immediately went on their phone, like not being part of this conversation. And she's from a country in Europe. And she was like,

Megan (17:41)

Bye.

Pauline (18:07)

I'm from Europe we're totally comfortable talking about sex. It's just in America that we don't talk about these things and I'm looking at the two husbands like So, yeah, no, I haven't heard a lot of talk about

Megan (18:17)

Is this public conversation?

Wow.

Well, what we did discover were there were a couple of other articles and podcast episodes from that were kind of talking and discussing some of the same things and within the same week. So it might be one of those in the cultural subconscious, in the universal subconscious

One of the things, what did it come up? I was listening to an episode of Armchair Expert where they had a sex researcher on...

and he was talking about the female orgasm and prioritizing female orgasm and that you know how many women how common it is for women to not have an orgasm and Sarah just said that I'm glad that this is getting out into the universe right

Pauline (19:12)

Yes she did. Yes she did. She's making the world a more orgasmic place. That was my favorite line from that episode. Yeah, I like talking about sex. I guess I sometimes like when people get uncomfortable. it was really fun for me and I hope that people are listening to it and...

Megan (19:19)

Bye!

Pauline (19:35)

enriching their lives through information that they've learned.

Megan (19:39)

I think I, you know, I think I know a lot about, and then I'm like, ⁓ I didn't know about that. I didn't know about that. You know, it's a-

Pauline (19:46)

Yeah, yeah, or

that's a good idea. I never thought about it that way. Or I never thought about, you know, the benefits of scheduling sex. we talk about it all the time, but ⁓ okay, yeah, I guess it does take pressure off and can, you know, add some excitement and preparing and.

Megan (20:02)

And exploring

intimacy beyond intercourse, I think it can be so valuable, especially when people have had real difficulty. You know, I think what she talked about, I forgot what she called it, like the touching, the mindfulness kind of that's so cool. I'm introducing that. Sense it, yeah.

Pauline (20:18)

Mm-hmm.

sense safe, right?

Yeah. Yeah. And incredible that like, even though we can only see from here up, you could totally tell that she was nine months pregnant.

Megan (20:25)

⁓

I mean,

I think she had that baby within a couple of weeks, if not days. I was like, my gosh, so cute. What a rare, I guess, to have a little recording of right before you have this baby. that's kind of cool to have that time stamped. ⁓

Pauline (20:37)

Yeah, yeah. Anyway, we, ⁓

Preserved in history. Yeah, that

was fun and we did. We did that in the middle of not even the blizzard of 2026, so I think in a year from now will be confused about which snowstorm it was. We've had a few here.

Megan (21:02)

Which one? Yeah, it was the first one.

We still have that snow just so it's just underneath all the other snow.

Pauline (21:10)

Yes, yes, the snow hasn't melted yet. By March, by March maybe we'll be out from under the snow. But yeah, so we've recorded those two episodes back to back during our snowstorm. So that was fun.

Megan (21:13)

No.

And then we talked to Neha, which was really cool. I've known her as a fellow classmate and as a fellow therapist, yet I haven't really talked to her that much about parenting. And so getting to know that part of her.

Pauline (21:41)

Yeah, she's such a cool, calm, laid back kind of grounded soul that you're like, like she just makes everything look so easy.

Megan (21:47)

Yeah.

It's very relaxing

to listen to her. was thinking when I was editing it I was like, I bet her clients love listening to her. Because it's like very relaxing.

Pauline (22:05)

Yeah, yeah, I think

you and I both have the ma vibe.

Megan (22:08)

Yeah, we have a little like, I definitely

have to pump the brakes quite often on myself, but yeah, she has more of like a, ⁓ which is nice.

Pauline (22:16)

Yeah,

yeah. And even for somebody who on the surface is so calm and regulated, right? Like being a parent is really hard. And especially when you know, we have a child who's has special needs or neurodivergence or neuro spicy as I like to call it. Right? Like

it can really frazzle the best of us.

Megan (22:43)

Yeah,

yeah. I love my favorite part of that was her talking about playing tennis because she enjoyed it when she was younger and then her really figuring out that she had to put herself on the list and like prioritize that. And she has done it.

and seems to continue to do it. And does it take away everything? No, but it's definitely, I think, helping her mental health. love how she's an advocate for her own mental health.

Pauline (23:12)

Yeah,

yeah. So many times we hear parents say I don't have time. there's literally no time in my schedule for me to be able to do that. And I say to them all the time, I know, and you have to find some. I know I'm asking you to do what seems impossible and it makes everything else a little bit easier.

Megan (23:30)

So now we're to Chana which I love this episode because we laugh a lot in this episode. We talk about fluids and all the gross stuff that happens. And actually my favorite part was at the end, she was talking about making soup.

Pauline (23:35)

Thank

Thank

Megan (23:47)

So funny. ⁓

Pauline (23:47)

Yeah, Chana

being a doula or a midwife or an OB, being upfront and center for all things that happen during childbirth is an incredible job. And also,

It's pretty special. And I'm thinking I've been watching The Pit lately, which reminds me of my...

Megan (24:14)

Me too, but I'm only on episode

five.

Pauline (24:17)

Okay, but it

reminds me of the time I spent working in a psych emergency room and like how bonded we were because it was us against the world and there's I'm still close to those people, you know, it was 20 years ago. And also the humor that you have to develop in order to survive working in those environments. And so I think if you are working around bodily fluids,

Megan (24:22)

Thank

Pauline (24:46)

and all the gross stuff during delivery, you have to get to a place where you can also talk about soup.

Megan (24:52)

Yeah.

Well, and I always tell that to like, actually my kids when they're like, whoa, this is so gross, this is so gross. And you know, like feeding the cat or something, they're it's disgusting. And you know what? I wiped your ass for many years. you get used to it, you can handle it. And also it changes when it's your own kid. But yeah, it's like, you have got this. You just.

Pauline (25:11)

Yeah.

Megan (25:15)

Put it in a box. Let it know what it is.

Pauline (25:16)

Yeah, yeah,

I remember my husband changing diapers and being like, this is so gross. And then there was a I have the vision in my head so clearly that I can tell you which kid it was, which stroller, where we were in the amusement park and the massive diaper blowout that was so impressive. My husband was like, we need to take a picture.

Megan (25:38)

God, it's so funny. We were just

talking about that the other day, because we were in February, years ago, we went to this country called Guadeloupe, which is a Caribbean country, but it's French. And so they have very hilly roads, but they are well-paved. And we were going, my youngest was three, almost four, and we were going on this road to a beach.

And he was like, I don't feel good. And we're like, okay, okay, we're going to pull over in just a second and immediately puke all over the rental car, all over this, his clothes, everything. And we didn't have clothes with us. We pulled over to, to a.

Pauline (26:14)

The worst.

That puke

smell never gets out of car seats.

Megan (26:19)

And this wasn't our car seat, this was the rental car.

Pauline (26:22)

Even better.

think that's great. You got to give it back.

Megan (26:25)

And we didn't even

we didn't know all of the instructions were in French. And so we didn't even know what cleaning products we were buying. were like, and so we had to pull over to a roadside stand and buy the most ridiculous outfit I've ever seen in my life. Cause it was the only thing that would fit him. was like tropical Hawaiian print overall. It's the best. I still have them. and it was just like, all right, here we are.

Pauline (26:50)

Yeah, mean, is those memories like of those like, at the time, like I'm sure you weren't laughing about it, right? Like at the time, it seemed like a disaster. Right, like this is going to be horrible. And now you look back and you're like, my God, like you can laugh about the outfit and

Megan (26:50)

dipping a kid in the ocean. ⁓

No, you're surviving. You're like, okay, okay, okay.

Yeah.

And then like the people watching us that are in their like vacation wear and we're like putting a naked toddler into the ocean to try to clean them up. It's like, you just gotta do it. You just have to.

Pauline (27:27)

I mean, that seems really clever to me. mean, my puke escapades were always like on the side of the LIEs, so not as much fun. ⁓

Megan (27:35)

Yeah. I just started

thinking about that. I wonder when I stopped carrying extra clothes and cleaning products in the car. At some point I did, but I don't, I did, I did that for a long time.

Pauline (27:51)

Yeah.

There's this trend on Instagram right now, like the last time you hold your kid.

Megan (27:57)

I know, I still try to pick up my kids.

Pauline (28:01)

I've

tried I tried to do it and my youngest was like I'm 220 pounds I don't think you can pick me up anymore I'm like I can do it he was like I'm gonna hurt you I'm like no come on I can't be that I can't have missed the last time I'm pretty sure I missed

Megan (28:17)

I

mean my oldest is almost as tall as me so he can he tries to pick me up now and then my youngest I did try to pick up the other day I'm like you're really heavy but the thing is I don't do the pickup I do the last time they snuggle because my youngest still snuggles and I'm like I hate doing this but I'm like how long is this gonna last like every single time okay when is this gonna stop

Pauline (28:39)

Yeah.

Megan (28:43)

and I am okay with it stopping because my oldest is a teenager now. It's kind of... I want him to be himself. It would be weird for him to crawl into bed with me maybe. Yeah, and so I'm like, I get that. And yet I'm like... I mean, every once in a while he's sick, whatever, that'd be fine. But yeah, he's doing what he's supposed to be doing is what I mean. And yet I'm like, oh.

Pauline (28:55)

Yes, yes it would be weird. And it wouldn't be, like...

Megan (29:10)

Yeah.

Pauline (29:11)

I can't wait till we get to some episodes about older kids and you know, I'm very vocal about how challenging it's been to raise an adult. to have an emerging adult as a child, this has been the hardest or the most challenging for my identity because you you spend your whole parenting identity trying to be the parent and now part of parenting is...

de-parenting, which is still an adjustment, but the experiences that we go through as parents from deciding to become a parent and now parenting adults is just really incredible.

Megan (29:49)

And then

some parents, parent, grandchildren. We haven't even thought of or haven't even talked about that. People like keep going.

Pauline (29:56)

Yeah.

Yes, they do. they're so I mean, where we obviously we could just talk for ever and we're never going to be out of topics because we're always like, yeah, here's another one. yeah, here's another one. So if you've been listening and you're like, I can't wait till they talk about

blue jeans and ponytails or whatever it is, write in, tell us what you want to hear about. What was that?

Megan (30:20)

⁓ 80s? Yeah.

I said, what is this the 80s? We're going to talk about 80s fashion. Let's do it.

Pauline (30:27)

Don't worry, it will

be back. Bell bottoms are back again, I think maybe the third time in my life. Wide bottom pants. There you go. Yeah, what's old is new again. My emerging adult now wears my husband's denim jacket. Like, it's so cool to see. I'm glad I saved it.

Megan (30:34)

Yeah, it's several times. mean, mine are little bit, but they're pretty wide less. But yeah. Yeah. I I love the cyclical nature of fashion.

Pauline (30:53)

But it's been really fun and I'm having so much fun doing this with you.

Megan (30:58)

same.

very, I tell people this and I think I've told you this, that I feel it's rare to find a boss, because you are my boss. FYI everyone.

Pauline (31:10)

I am. This will be the

second time today that I've said I have to remind myself sometimes that I am the boss.

Megan (31:18)

that not only is supportive of my professional career, but also of who I am as a person. And you don't just do that with me, you do it with so many people. And I think it's very cool that you can see what people are good at and you really push them in that direction. thanks.

Pauline (31:36)

Thank you. I really try. It's the part I love about my job. we're all so different and everybody's got their, everybody's got the thing that they are. And you don't have to be anybody else, just be you.

Megan (31:49)

We also

joke that if Pauline finds out you're good at something, then you're going to be doing it.

Pauline (31:55)

I

know they do talk about me behind my back. I'm aware of this. And it is true.

Megan (31:59)

you

It's

true, you're really good at it.

Pauline (32:04)

It is

true. got it over the weekend. I texted somebody like hey do you want to do this and she Texted me back. I was like, why are you always pushing me? Yeah, I will do it

But sometimes we just need a push to figure out that we can fly. And I'm happy to give you a little push and then watch you fly.

Megan (32:24)

You're awesome. It's also a great

opportunity for us to learn what's within our realms and when we need to set boundaries and you've always been really great about that too. Like you don't have time for that. All right. So it's All right.

Pauline (32:38)

Yeah. Yeah. So I am

love I love having this episode to sort of look back and look ahead and we have some more great stuff coming. So we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna keep this going. And if you have other ideas, please drop it in our chat. Message us on Instagram.

Megan (33:02)

Yeah.

Pauline (33:02)

It didn't carrier whatever way you need to get it message to us. We're both pretty pretty accessible

Megan (33:09)

Yeah, if you let us know what you want us to talk about or if there's people you want us to talk to. Yeah, if you want to be a guest, let us know.

Pauline (33:14)

or if you want to be somebody that we talk to.

Yeah,

we have some we have some guests lined up who are not therapists. So like, I'm excited to do those episodes. I don't know what they're going to be like yet, but it's gonna be fun. Yeah. So thank you all for being with us today. It has been a pleasure. And we are going to wrap up this episode and hope that you will come back for more. See you. Bye.

Megan (33:24)

I know.

Yeah, we'll see. More to come.

See you soon. Bye guys.

Speaker 2 (33:46)

Thanks for spending this time with us. If you found yourself nodding along or

Speaker 3 (33:51)

saying, same! That's kind of the point.

Speaker 1 (33:55)

We hope you leave today feeling a little less alone. This is what no mom told you. And yeah, there's more where that came from.